The Monthly Newsletter of Yellowstone Woodturners
Billings, Montana

November 2016                            Vol. 17, No.11


From the Editor

Those Members who did not attend the business meeting and wish to know the status of the Clubs funds can contact the club Treasurer,  Leona Gipe (406)248-1664.


Think About Turning Today!


Meeting Location

Roaring 20’s Auto Club clubhouse, 7400 Grand Avenue.



Minutes (Wednesday October 5, 2016 Meeting)

Officers: Ron, Leona, Stan, Nick

Historian Photographer: Jane Kelly

Call for Guests: We had three guests at this meeting, Clark Johnson, Don & and Dale Stall.

They all told us that they are interested in our club, hope they all decide to join.

Cookies By: Jerry and Leona Gipe. Next month cookies by Martin R.

Health Reports: No new reports.

Correspondence: We have some hats and sew on patches with our club's logo for sale. Call Ron V.

Show and Tell: No special challenge this month.

Dale M. Brought a wine cooler made from Box Elder and Russian Olive with a lacquer finish.

Roger H. Brought a platter and bowl made from Oak, finish unknown. He also brought a thin stem goblet, kind of wood and finish unknown.

Phil S. Brought a vase made from colored pencils glued together with a Master Gel finish.

Chris S. Brought a hollow form and a bowl made from Curly Maple with a CA glue finish.

Clark J. Brought two cars made from a variety of woods, kind of finish unknown.

Stan L. Brought a goblet with a captured ring made from Bubinga with club mix finish, a bowl made from Walnut and Maple with club mix finish, a scope made from Maple with club mix finish and a center piece made from unknown wood with club mix finish.

Next month's challenge: Any thing you want to turn. (BE CREATIVE)

Treasurer’s report: We have 17 people paid to attend our Symposium as of meeting and Ron

told us he had heard from 3 or 4 others that said they were attending.

Gathering Wood: On going. We have a lot of wood for our members and if you would like some call Stan and he can bring it to our next meeting.

Soliciting New Members: On going

Open Workshop: Nothing scheduled

Hands On Workshops: Nothing scheduled.

2016 Dues are due, they remain at $25.

Symposium 11:

Keith Gotschall will be our presenter for Symposium 11 on October 8th & 9th , 2016.

His Website is if you would like to see some of his work.

Stan mentioned that he would like to see as many turnings as possible from our

members for our display table.



Wanted, For sale, Free 

This is your area,  Email, or phone Paul if you have an item to post here.


A Message From Members


Shop Tips from AAW

Clean Up Your Shop

This is my current bench top (actually slightly tidied by removing the stuff that was going to fall off). The remains of at least two projects are on this bench top. There may be a third, but I'd have to clean off the top layer to be sure.
The mess and the junk keep me from finding what I'm looking for. That frustrates me, slows me down, and occasionally makes me use the wrong tool because I can't find the right tool. All of that increases the risk I will start bleeding.
Clean up your shop for the New Year! Resolve to keep it that way. You'll be safer and enjoy it more too.
~Harvey Rogers
Portland, Oregon
Safety Officer, Cascade Woodturners Association


Ask the expert tip from AAW 

Sealing Vessels
Q: May I ask you, when I make a wooden drinking vessel, what would you seal it with? I have asked about twelve turners and they mostly say, "You cannot seal them to make it safe to drink from." I just want the vessels to drink wine or beer from. Is that possible? I was informed you might know.
~ John Forster (England)
A: Thanks for your message. This is a common question about finishing for food grade surfaces. Depending upon the wood used, (fine grain hardwoods, such as hard maple, beech, and similar dense woods), sealing the wood for use with liquids can be accomplished with food grade finishes. Some will require continual maintenance (such as oil finishes), while others (film finishes) may be attempted which require less upkeep, but may have other concerns regarding de-lamination due to natural wood movement.
Oil-Based Finishes: Wooden vessels have been used for centuries without sealing them (raw wood), but likely were also replaced frequently. Beer, and certainly red wine, will likely stain the raw wood with continued use. You might try turning vessels in maple or beech, and sealing them with multiple applications of natural oil finishes (e.g. tung oil, linseed oil, walnut oil), diluting the oil significantly in the early coats to encourage penetration. Multiple coats would be advised, allowing the oil to fully cure between applications. Such a surface would be water resistant, but not waterproof. It likely will require maintenance and additional applications of oil periodically throughout the life of the vessel. Increased water resistance might be improved with the frequent application of carnauba wax between uses (fully food safe).
There is no guarantee that the vessel will maintain its shape if used with liquids that remain in contact with the wood for extended periods. This might be considered for "short-lived" vessels.  
~ Rob Wallace, Ames, Iowa
AAW Board of Advisers


An Article From More Woodturning

Turning a Duck

by Fred Holder

Back in 2004, Guilo Marcolongo, a turner from Australia, demonstrated how to turn a Daffy Duck at the Utah Symposium. I decided to try one. Here’s my process, with some photos from Guilo’s demonstration.

Guilo’s ducks

To begin this project, you need a piece of wood for the body and another piece of wood for the head. Here are the dimension ratios that I came up with from Guilo’s ducks and they seem to give a nicely proportioned duck (everything is dimensioned off of the diameter of the body):

Length of body: 1.5 diameter of body

Length of head: 0.73 length of body

Length of head blank: 1.25 length of body

Diameter of head: 0.5 length of body

Top of bill: 0.52 length of body

Radius of foot: 0.33 length of body

Eye: 0.1 length of body

Diameter of leg: 0.06 length of body

I actually worked everything out using the length of the body then realized that the controlling factor will be the diameter of the piece of wood that you are turning the body from. After that I changed the basis for everything to be from the diameter of the body.

The body is turned into a good egg shape. Just make it 1.5 times as long as it is in diameter. From this make the dimensions of all of the other pieces.

The body has been turned and is nearly ready to part off. It is easier to turn the body with one end held in a chuck and then you have only one end to hand sand.

Next step is to turn the head. Cut a blank and turn it round. The round blank should measure 0.5 the length of the body and 1.25 times the length of the body. Make sure the ends are square with the body. Take this piece to the bandsaw and saw out a 1/4 section. Set the 1/4 section aside and

shorten the blank by the top of the bill length or 0.52 length of the body. Mount this in the chuck and turn the egg shaped head to be 0.73 length of body.

Here the head is mounted in the chuck and ready to turn. The ¼ section is left out in the initial turning of the head.

The head has been turned to shape. It is now time to glue in the ¼ section that will become the bill.

Now glue in the 1/4 section that you had set aside. When the glue sets, turn the head down to meet with the bill and turn the bill into the shape shown in the photo.

Here the ¼ section is glued into the head and ready to final turn. You must turn the head down to match with the bill section and turn the bill section to a point at the very end. Do not turn on the center pointed section.

Sand, and the head is done except for drilling holes for the eyes and a hole to mount the head to the body. The head is never glued to the body. You leave it free so that you can position the head

to best effect in your display.

Here the head has been completely turned. You must hand sand the top of the bill section.

In this photo, Guilo is determining where the head would look best on this particular duck.

Turn a disk that has a radius of 0.33 length of body and cut it into four sections to make four feet. This piece should be curved a bit to make the feet more pleasing. Round over the back of the feet on a disk sander and shape the front of the feet as shown in the finished picture. Turn the leg pieces and the neck piece; they can all be the same size or the neck piece can be different if desired.

This shows the blank from which Guilo made the feet. You can get four feet out of a blank like this.

Turn the eyes out of contrasting wood. I used African Blackwood, but walnut or any other dark wood would work fine. I turned the eyes into little balls on the end of a small tenon. The tenon was turned to a common drill size. The location of the eyes is then determined and holes are drilled for the eye tenons. The small end of the body goes towards the head. Hold the head and body together to decide where it looks best and drill a hole in the body for the neck pin.

Now, try to determine the best point to align the center of gravity above the legs and drill two leg holes. Make sure the holes are parallel to one another. Drill holes in the feet pieces and glue in the legs. Now, apply glue to the top of the legs and insert them into the body. Press down until the duck is setting level and both feet are touching the table surface.

It is a good idea to do a dry set up of all of the pieces before you start gluing any of them together. Let the glue dry and apply finish to the duck.

The author’s duck made for a friend who gave us some wood.

You will find these are interesting to make and Guilo says that they sell quite well, especially as a mama, papa, and ducklings set.


More Woodturning Magazine
Events Calendar Listing - November 2016

November 05, 2016 to November 06, 2016
2016 Virginia Woodturning Symposium
Location: Fisherville, VA
Dates: Saturday, November 05, 2016 to Sunday, November 06, 2016

The 2016 Virginia Woodturning Symposium, held in Fishersville, VA on Nov. 5th & 6th, will have a new look. We have a greatly expanded space as well as an outstanding lineup of nationally and internationally known turners. When you attend the Symposium, you will be treated to demonstrations by Trent Bosch, Jimmy Clewes, Barry Gross, Lyle Jamison, John Jordan, Johannes Michelsen, Frank Penta, and Bob Rosand.


"Creativity Is Allowing Yourself To Make Mistakes.

Art Is Knowing Which Mistakes To Keep."

Happy Turning


Club Sponsors



PRESIDENT:  Ron Velin (406)679-0902
Stan Lambert  (406)348-3499
SECRETARY:  Nick Enslander (406)259-6762
Leona Gipe (406)248-1664
Librarian: (
Dr. Van) Richard Vande Veegaete (406)245-9945
Jane Kelly (406)259-3840
Technical Advisor: Newsletter & Website Editor: Paul Spencer (406) 861-6718
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Billings, Montana

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Billings, MT 59104

A local chapter of the American Association of Woodturners.


Map to Meeting Location


Yellowstone Woodturners

Symposium 12


Let the club officers know your suggestions

October 8th and 9th, 2016

Roaring 20'S Auto Clubhouse

7400 Grand Avenue

Billings, Montana




November 2016 Agenda 

 Meeting Wednesday, November 9th, 2016

at 7:00 PM at  the Roaring 20’s Car club facilities. 

Officers:  Ron, Stan, Leona, Nick

Cookies by:  Cookies by Martin

Treasurer’s report:  Leona Gipe

Historian, Photographer: Jane Kelly

Show and Tell:  Bring your items for show and tell.

Program:  ?               


2016 Dues are due, remain at $25.

High school class:    Stan and Jerry can update.

Symposium #11:  like or dislike? discussion       

Cookies sign up:

November……………..Martin Robinson

December………………Christmas Party

Monthly turning challenge :  November -Something you learned from the Seminar