The Monthly Newsletter of Yellowstone Woodturners
Billings, Montana

June 2017                            Vol. 18, No.6


From the Editor

Those Members who did not attend the business meeting and wish to know the status of the Clubs funds can contact the club Treasurer,  Leona Gipe (406)248-1664.


Think About Turning Today!

 Have You Turned Today?

Super meeting last month; great demo &4 guests in attendance.

This month we meet on the 14th. First item of
business will be to plan our Demo at Ace Hardware
on Zimmerman.  We'll need to mostly empty the
trailer & decide what & how we will do our setup.
They will be having a Father's Day Sale of Bar-BQ 
equipment.  We will be set just to the north of the front
door on the side walk with the trailer right next to us.
We are allowed to sell our products; so still time to produce
some items (you can send stuff even if you are unable to attend).
Demo to be on Sat. the 17th likely from 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
We can also add to our sign ups for the fair booth shifts. Take 
home some more wood, and discuss the need to have TV's at
our Symposium.
See you at the meeting.

Stan Lambert, Pres.


Meeting Location

Roaring 20’s Auto Club clubhouse, 7400 Grand Avenue.



Minutes (Wednesday May 10, 2017 Meeting)

Officers: Stan, Leona, Tim, Nick

Historian Photographer: Jane Kelly

Call for Guests: We had 4 guests at this meeting, Ben, Dave, Scott and the forth name I did not

hear. I believe that one or two have already joined. Welcome to all, and hope

to see more to join.

Cookies By: Dr. Van

Health Reports: No new reports.

Correspondence: We have some hats and sew on patches with our club's logo for sale. Call Stan L.

Stan L. had a couple jokes for us.

Show and Tell: Any project you like.

Roger H. Brought a cutting board and several eggs made from a variety of woods. He colored

the eggs with color markers and finished with lacquer.

Gary W. Brought a bud vase made from Cedar fence post, finished with polyurethane.

Dr Van Brought a segmented urn made from Yellowheart,Maple and Walnut, finished with


Jerry G. Brought 2 bowls, one made from Box Elder the other made from Cedar. Both were

finished with lacquer.

Ivy C. Brought a screw driver with handle she made, kind of wood and finish unknown.

Stan L. Brought a bud vase and a round disc that both had some basketry effect on them. Both

were made from hard Maple with a lacquer finish.

Ralph P. Brought 2 natural edge bowls, one made from Willow and the other was made from

Juniper. Both were finished with tongue oil.

Ralph T. Brought his finished Intarsia piece that he started for the program he did on Intarsia.

Dan V. Brought a bowl with iridescent paint on part of it. It was made from Maple with a

lacquer finish.

Jesse C. Brought a threaded lidded box made from Poplar, kind of finish unknown.

Paul S. Brought some segmented coasters, tie clips and jewelry. Kind of wood and finish


Next month's challenge: No special challenge, just turn any thing.

Treasurer’s report: We have our insurance bill for the trailer and it's content dew. If you

planning to our Symposium, we would like to see some start to sign up.

Gathering Wood: We steal have quit a bit of Box Elder wood to be cut up and plenty to buy

at a very cheap price.

Soliciting New Members: On going

Open Workshop: Nothing scheduled at this time.

Hands On Workshops: Nothing scheduled. Stan L. said he would talk to George O. about

them when he gets back.


2017 Dues are due, they remain at $25.

Stan mentioned that we should look into tree cutting again this year and that we all

should keep our eyes and ears open for possibility’s.

Stan told us that Dennis Liggett is our demonstrator at our next Symposium. The dates

are September 30th and October 1st. There were lists of proposed topics to have at our

Symposium, that might change but it is a start.

Our brochures are finished and some have been handed out to some of the Hardware

Stores and a lumber yard.

We will be having a booth at the Fair this year and we will need members to man it. A

sign-up list was handed out at the meeting, but we still will need more members for

some of the shifts. Please sign up.

High School classes: Classes are finished for the year.

There was a discussion on having a Demo at Ace Hardware on Zimmerman Trail and it

decided that we would have one in June. The possible date for the Demo was decided

to be on Saturday June 17. You can bring things to show or sell and we will need demonstrators.

We have a total of 3 bowls for next years “Souper Bowl” so far, you can bring in bowls

any time. The more the better.

Chris S. brought a order of CA glue to the meeting and he has 2 left, so if you would like

one talk to Chris.

Stan mentioned that we are looking for flat screen TV's to replace ours that died. They

need to be 42” or bigger and cost around $100.00 or so. If you see any or know of any

give Stan a call.

If you need a new members list call Leona. The updated ones are now finished.


PROGRAM: Dan V. gave a great talk and demonstration on coloring wood with iridescent paints

on parts of our projects. He told us that you turn a piece then tape off the area you

would want the iridescent paint and under coat that area with black paint. Then

put a spot of iridescent paint on blow paint around with compressed air, alternating

colors as you go. He used 3 different colors on his and finish coated his with spray

lacquer. Finished product looked great. He told us that he got the idea off the

internet on a Youtube video by Tim Yoder called “Cosmic Clouds Platter” He also

gave us a place to purchase the iridescent paint on line, visit

Next months PROGRAM: No program scheduled for next month as of end of meeting.


Cookies sign up:

April - Nick Emslander
May - Dr. Van
June - Dale Molyneaux
July - Jane Kelly
August - Gary Walter


Wanted, For sale, Free 

This is your area,  Email, or phone Paul if you have an item to post here.


A Message From Members


Shop tip from AAW

"Re-Shaping a Parting Tool"

Many of you have dove-tail jaws for your lathe chuck and an easy way to turn a tenon that will fit those jaws is by re-shaping one of your parting tools. I chose an old tool with a turning surface of about 1/8". I'll admit that I only "eye-balled" the angle, but it can certainly be calculated to exactly match the angle of the dove-tail jaws on your chuck.
In addition to using this tool to turn tenons on blanks, I use it to undercut finial tenons, to create shoulders on box lids, to scrape tight curved surfaces. I'm sure you'll think of many more uses for this tool.
To sharpen the parting tool, I slightly twist the handle which presents an angled surface to the grinding wheel. 
~Janice Levi
Groesbeck, Texas
Brazos Valley Woodturners, Waco
Gulf Coast 

Safe Way to Change Chuck Jaws

I have a Supernova 2 chuck that I use for my mini lathe. The jaws for this chuck are mounted on by screws. When it comes time to change jaws, the screws are very snug, and untightening them can lead to fingers flying into the jaws. I have injured many fingers like this, but I discovered that wearing a work glove while unscrewing the jaws protects your fingers from smashing into the jaws. I have saved my fingers from injury many times with this technique.
~Wyatt Workman, Vacaville California






An Article From More Woodturning

Inside/out Turning
by John Lucas

Inside-out turning is a process where you take four pieces of square timber, glue them together and turn a design (usually a silhouette ) into the part that will be the inside of the piece. Then take this apart, rotate the pieces, glue them back together and turn the outside. This is why it’s called inside-out turning. I will try to describe the process of inside-out turning and hopefully stop you from making some of the errors that I have made. I learned most of what I know by trial and error, error, error. I listed my sources of information at the end of this article.

The Process

Start by cutting four pieces of wood equal to the length of your turning. Each piece must be perfectly square. This is important because you will have gaps in the turning if they are not square. I generally cut four separate pieces from a flat board, but if you want the grain to match it is possible to re-saw a piece of thick timber and square up each piece. The grain won’t match perfectly but will be close. Since there is a learning curve to this style of turning I recommend turning some 2x2 scrap as experiments. I use pine 2x4’s for practice (see photo 1.)

Photo 1.

Because you are turning the inside first, the outside shape will be limited. It is important to make a few trial runs so you can learn to see the problems. For practice pieces, I use strapping or filament tape to hold the wood together. This makes it easy to pull the tape back and reassemble the piece to check your progress. Start with simple shapes such as diamonds, circles, crosses etc. Shapes such as hearts and flowers require you to undercut the turning when doing the silhouette. This is difficult to turn and to judge the shape.

Gluing the piece

To turn the inside, glue the four pieces together with a glue that can be separated. I have used CA glue, paper joints, strapping or filament tape, plastic tie wraps and hose clamps to hold the pieces together for the first turning. I prefer a paper joint. It is more secure and keeps the wood aligned properly. The space created by the glue will show up as a space in your silhouette so it is important to have a very thin line. I use newspaper for my paper joint. This creates a good bond and a thin line. Tape, tie-wraps, hose clamps and rubber bands all work well as “clamps” to glue the work but have drawbacks if they are used instead of glue.


Centering is very important, so I take a very small sliver of wood (about 1/8 inch) off each corner of the square stock before I glue or clamp them together. After you get them together, the four “knocked off” corners make an accurate hole to align the center pin of your drive and tailstock centers. Label the end of each block so you will know how to reverse them later. I stack the wood together to find out which side should be out for the best grain pattern and then label the end with numbers and an arrow pointing toward the center. Turn them 180 degrees so the good side is in and glue them together with a paper joint. Spread glue on the piece and place newspaper over the glue. Clamp the pieces together and let it sit. It will take longer to dry than the glue normally requires so be patient. Use a cup center of some kind on the tailstock so you won’t split the piece. I also use a fairly large drive center so the teeth help hold the four sides together. Long cones in the center of drive and tail centers will act like a wedge and split the paper joint.

Draw the design full size

I find it very difficult to accurately copy the silhouette without a drawing. After you complete the drawing, fold it in half and cut out half of the silhouette. When the drawing is folded in half, the cut out silhouette will stick out and make a perfect template to check your turning. You will also have a guide for the outside turning. Just because you can draw it on paper doesn’t mean it will work in the final turning. The outside shape is dependent upon the inside. Make a test piece to check your design.

Rough out the silhouette

I mark the edges of the design on the square block.

Drawing 1

Rough out only the area where you will place your silhouette. Don’t round the piece down to a cylinder. Leave small flats on all 4 sides: 1/8” to 3/8” is fine. If you round it down to a cylinder, there will be a thin line running through the piece that destroys the effect of the silhouette. I mark lines all the way around the square at the edges of the silhouette and then use the toe of the skew to cut a large “V” cut on the inside of this line. This keeps me from tearing off a corner. I start the “V” on the inside of the mark and work my way back to the line with small cuts by sighting down the bevel of the tool. Then I use a bowl gouge or skew to rough out the cylinder, leaving the four flat areas.

Drawing 2.

The outside corners will be the center of the piece when it is reversed and re-glued. If you round these off you can’t have a thin stem like the one in my candlestick drawing. However, if you are making a lamp, you could knock off the corners about 3/16” and there will be a 3/8” hole down the center for the cord.


Now you are ready to cut the silhouette. Cut very carefully and check your progress often.

Drawing 3.

Drawing 4.

Stop the lathe and place the folded drawing on the flat side to see how the cut out portion fits in your turning. Check often and cut very carefully--it’s very difficult to sand the inside of the silhouette. I end up using custom-made scraping tools a lot. They are easy to make. I use drill rod, old screwdrivers, and old allen wrenches. They can be ground to any shape fairly quickly. I don’t even bother to harden them unless I know it’s a tool I’ll use a lot.


When you have finished the silhouette, remove the work from the lathe and split the pieces apart. I use a 1” chisel. It should pop right apart. If it fights you or looks like the thin areas near the silhouette will break I drive a paring knife down the joint until it pops apart. Rotate each piece 180 degrees and then glue them back together. Don’t get any more glue than necessary on the edges near the silhouette.

Drawing 5.

It will be difficult to clean off the squeeze-out on the inside of the turning. Trust me on this. If your pieces were not perfectly square you may have to glue up two pieces and then flatten one side before you glue up the others. This will affect the shape of your silhouette so take off as little as possible. If they were perfectly square, simply clamp them together with the silhouette aligned and wait for the glue to dry.

Turning the outside

Turning the outside is fairly straight-forward. Stop the lathe frequently and check the wall thickness around the silhouette.

Drawing 6.

It can be difficult to see and will “blow up” if you get it too thin. I am still learning about the shapes that will work together on the inside and outside. In the beginning, you should be prepared to change the shape of the outside to accommodate the wall thickness. Once you have made a few, you will have a better understanding of the process. I suggest starting with something simple like a circle or a cross. Cut several circle or cross silhouettes in a long piece of scrap material and then play with the outside shapes to see what happens to the wall thickness and the shape of the silhouette. I’ve had a lot of fun doing this style of turning and hope you will also. There are a lot of options. You can rotate each piece 90 degrees and turn the combination four times. This method turns four pieces that are off center but exactly alike. You can paint, carve, or burn the inside before the reassembly. Use your imagination and have fun!

Photo 2. A finished piece.

Photo 3

Inside-Out Turning Resources

Better Homes and Gardens, Wood-Turning techniques, Pg.62, split turned vase

Woodturning Magazine, Vo. No. 45 Pg. 52, Inside-out vase

Woodturning Methods, Mike Darlow, Pg. 118, Inside-out Turning

The best from Woodturning Magazine, Faceplate Turning, Pg. 66 turning inside-out Platters

The best from Woodturning Magazine, Spindle Turning, Pg. 85, Inside-Out

Christmas Ornament

The best from Woodturning Magazine, Useful techniques for woodturning, Pg.

94 Involute Turning-90 degree turning

American Woodturner, AAW project Book, Pg. 52, Inside-Out Christmas Ornament


More Woodturning Magazine
Events Calendar Listing - June - August 2017

May 11, 2017 to May 13, 2017 Utah Woodturning Symposium SYMPOSIUM Location: Orem, UT Dates: Thursday, May 11, 2017 to Saturday, May 13, 2017 Description:

Over a three day period you will have the opportunity to learn from many of the industry’s top professionals, to ask questions, to engage and to expand your knowledge. You will also have a chance to meet new woodturners, catch up with old friends and have a great time participating in the evening activities we have to offer. Website:

June 22, 2017 to June 25, 2017 AAW's 31st Annual International Symposium SYMPOSIUM Location: Kansas City, Missouri Dates: Thursday, June 22, 2017 to Sunday, June 25, 2017 Description:

The conference will bring together more than more than 1,500 turners from around the globe to learn, share, and celebrate the art and craft of woodturning making it the largest woodturning event in the world. Read more of the description on the web page. Website:

July 15, 2017 to July 16, 2017
UK and Ireland Woodturning Symposium
Location: Coventry, UK
Dates: Saturday, July 15, 2017 to Sunday, July 16, 2017

This two day symposium is sponsored by a not-for-profit organization promoting woodturning throughout the UK and Ireland.
Website: 25, 2017 to August 27, 2017

SWAT Woodturning Symposium
Location: Waco, TX
Dates: Friday, August 25, 2017 to Sunday, August 27, 2017

The South West Association of Turners symposium features nationally and internationally recognized turners, as well as outstanding regional turners selected from participating clubs and across the country. Lead demonstrators for the 2017 symposium include James Duxbury, Trent Bosch, Andy Cole, Molly Winton, Al Hockenbery, and Eric Lofstrom. As usual, there will also be an art gallery, a Saturday-night banquet, a drawing, and a large vendor area.


"Creativity Is Allowing Yourself To Make Mistakes.

Art Is Knowing Which Mistakes To Keep."

Happy Turning


Club Sponsors



PRESIDENT:  Stan Lambert  (406)348-3499
Tim Morgan (406)969-1982
SECRETARY:  Nick Enslander (406)259-6762
TREASURER:  Leona Gipe (406)248-1664
Librarian: (
Dr. Van) Richard Vande Veegaete (406)245-9945
Jane Kelly (406)259-3840
Technical Advisor: Newsletter & Website Editor: Paul Spencer (406) 861-6718
Web Site:

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Yellowstone Woodturners Club

PO Box 21836

Billings, MT 59104

A local chapter of the American Association of Woodturners.


Map to Meeting Location


Yellowstone Woodturners

Symposium 12


Dennis Liggett

September 30th and October 1th, 2017

Roaring 20'S Auto Clubhouse

7400 Grand Avenue

Billings, Montana

Cost of Symposium (Discounted if Paid by September 13th) $90

Cost of Symposium (If Paid after September 13th) per person $100

Cost for single day - Saturday or Sunday (per person) $75