The Monthly Newsletter of Yellowstone Woodturners
Billings, Montana

August 2017                            Vol. 18, No.8


From the Editor

Those Members who did not attend the business meeting and wish to know the status of the Clubs funds can contact the club Treasurer,  Leona Gipe (406)248-1664.


Think About Turning Today!

Have You Turned Today?


Sunday, August 6, 2017

The setup crew was at the fair grounds at 8:00 this morning and has the trailer in place, plus a tentative plan for our layout of the booth. This is also a reminder of our meeting this Wednesday; 7:00 p.m. as usual. To now finish signing up for the Fair shifts will be the top priority.

Our Symposium is just around the corner; and it is not to early to get registered for what looks to be a great one.

Paul asked me for the cookie signup for the balance of 2017; it is not in my file, so if it is not found by Wed. remember the month you chose and we will re-sign-up!

See you at the meeting, Stan Lambert, Pres.


Meeting Location

Roaring 20’s Auto Club clubhouse, 7400 Grand Avenue.



Minutes (Wednesday July 12, 2017 Meeting)

Officers: Stan, Leona, Tim, Nick Historian Photographer: Jane Kelly

Call for Guests: We had 2 guests at this meeting Wane Chambers and Ray Curtis's son, Ray Curtis Jr. Hope we get to see more of them.

Cookies By: Jane K. and Gary W. Health Reports: Dr Van told us that Phil S. is in the Hospital with possible pneumonia. Hope he gets well soon. Correspondence:

We have some hats and sew on patches with our club's logo for sale. Call Stan L.

Jane K. had a joke for us at this meeting. Clint Thomas gave Stan a box of old chisels to give the members.

Show and Tell: Any project you like.

Ray C. Brought 2 bowls, one was made from Silver Maple and the other was made from Honey Locus. Finishes unknown.

Ray C. Jr. Brought several pens made from a verity of woods, finishes unknown. He also brought 2 vases, one made from Asian Pear stained with a lacquer finish. The other was made from Black Walnut finished with walnut oil.

Dr Van Brought a segmented bowl Padieque an Cherry with a lacquer finish. He also brought a baby rattle made from Maple with no finish, a bowl made from unknown wood with a lacquer finish and a vase made from Cedar with a lacquer finish.

Jane K. Brought a small vase made from Sumac with a EEE Ultra Shine and 4 whistles made from Antler, Box Elder and all finished with CA glue.

Gary W. Brought 4 bowls, one from Black Walnut, 2 made from Maple burl and one made from an unknown wood all finished with polyurethane.

Dan V. Brought a platter made from Maple finished with dye, gilders paste and lacquer.

George O. Brought 2 vases both made from Aspen, one with an electric burn and lacquer finish and the other with stain and lacquer finish.

Tim M. Brought a vase made from Juniper with a Master Gel finish and a bowl made from Myrtle with a Master Gel finish.

Jerry G. Brought a wine cooler made from Aspen stained and electric burned with a lacquer finish.

Next month's challenge: No special challenge, just turn any thing.

Treasurer’s report: We are up to date on our bills and have 4 members that have payed to attend our Symposium. We have received several items from venders for door prizes at our Symposium. If you have questions call Leona.

Gathering Wood: We steal have quit a bit of Box Elder wood to be cut up and plenty to buy at a very cheap price.

Soliciting New Members: On going

Open Workshop: Nothing scheduled at this time.

Stan mentioned that he would like to schedule one as soon as he could find some time to cut up more of the Box Elder we have at his place.

Hands On Workshops: Nothing scheduled.


2017 Dues are due, they remain at $25.

Stan told us that Dennis Liggett is our demonstrator at our next Symposium. The dates are September 30th and October 1st. There were lists of proposed topics to have at our Symposium, that might change but it is a start. Members could start signing up soon so we can start getting an idea where we are at for numbers.

We will be having a booth at the Fair this year and we will need members to man it. A sign-up list was handed out a third time to cover all the shifts. We could use more members to help. Stan mentioned things that we will need at the fair such as our trailer, A/C's, fans, show items and a TV. We need at least 2 TV's 42 inch or larger, so if you of any for sale or see a good sale call Stan. We could use a display cabinet at the fair, so if you know of any call Stan.

High School classes: Classes are finished for the year.

The Demo at Ace Hardware on Zimmerman Trail went fairly well we had quit a few people stop by with several that seemed interested in turning, but haven't heard from any of them. We had a power issue for a while until we realized that Stan shorted out one of our lathes. (JUST KIDING STAN) Some of the members did sale some of their pieces.

Stan passed out a sign up sheet for cookies for the rest of the year because the next months were not filled.

We have a total of 3 bowls for next years “Souper Bowl” so far, you can bring in bowls any time. The more the better.

If you need a new members list call Leona. The updated ones are now finished.


PROGRAM: George O. with the help of Jerry G. gave a great demonstration on electric burning on our turned pieces. They showed and told us what woods burn well and what woods do not burn very well. George worked on and put together one of the safest ways to do this kind of wood burning. The best thing about it he is so willing to share all the information he put together. He put together a list of all the part and pieces that he used and where he got them and shared that with us at the meeting, but I did not have my recorder set up right so I did not get all that information to put in these minutes. (SORRY) If you would like to get that information you could call George O. or Jerry G. and I'm sure they would give that to you.

PROGRAM Next Month: No program scheduled for next month as of end of meeting.


Cookies sign up:

August - Gary Walter


Wanted, For sale, Free 

This is your area,  Email, or phone Paul if you have an item to post here.


A Message From Members


Shop tip from AAW

Duct tape in the shop

When I remove a natural-edge bowl from the chuck to reverse chuck to finish the bottom, I use a roll of duct tape with the jaws expanded into the inside of the roll. This provides a little cushion inside the bowl and protects the work from marks from the jaws. Align the live center into the center mark of your tenon and secure the tailstock. Continue the flow of the outside bowl curve and make sure the bottom of the bowl has a little concave to it, allowing the bowl to sit flush on a flat surface. Use a saw to remove the final nib and then sand.

~J.P. Neff, San Diego, California





An Article From More Woodturning

On Finding and Donating Wood
by Bob Heltman

Some months ago, I wrote an article about how to find wood. This was to help folks new to woodturning. Often, they get a lathe, tools, etc. and then wonder “where do I get wood?” I’ll review that, but herein want to mostly address the more experienced woodturner who wakes up buried in more wood than he can turn in the future, even if he lives on into eternity. I’ve been both without and with too much wood, so I can comment in expert fashion.

The newbie to woodturning can get wood by a number of methods. Go to a local store selling hardwoods, a craft store, lumber yard, etc. This, however, costs money. Better, look around your area for fallen trees, damaged trees about to fall, etc. Talk to the owner. Talk to a tree service company. Look for a “stump dump” where tree surgeons take parts of trees. Keep your eye on the weather --remember, a hurricane, tornado, or other high wind is the woodturner’s friend. However, be considerate and don’t visit a damaged area when the EMS squad or ambulance is there...I mean for goodness sake, curb yourself a bit. Have a chainsaw handy at all times though. Helping a neighbor remove a tree is a service rendered...and you get the wood! In some places, talk to your US Forest Service and get their advice. Look in the paper. As you drive around, look for fallen trees, an old apple orchard being uprooted, etc. Opportunity favors the prepared mind. And, of course, join your nearest woodturning club and let your need be known.

As you get into the woodturning game you will hear of burls and strange sounding woods. Subscribe to More Woodturning Magazine, the AAW Journal, etc. and look in the ads section. If all else fails, wear torn and shoddy clothes, stand on a high traffic street corner, put a sad and downcast look on your face, and wear a cardboard sign around your neck that says, “Have Lathe, Need wood.” You’ll get all the attention you need.

Now, let’s move forward in time 1 to 3 years. What happens is that word gets around that you turn wood and you’ll get calls from friends, neighbors, even strangers, asking if you are interested in taking down or cutting up a tree they have. From time to time you’ll connect and acquire a large supply of maple, cherry, ash, oak, dogwood, sourwood, hickory, pecan, boxelder, and so on. And you’ll have a very large pile of wood, or several such piles. At first this is high-status and you’ll feel elegant and proud. “Yes, yes” you’ll humbly say, “I’m kinda pretty much devoted to woodturning some.” If you turn a good bit, you’ll stay familiar with what type of wood is in what part of the pile or has its own pile. And, you’ll develop expertise in looking at a piece of a tree and correctly identifying it. Smugness will set will bugs and rot if you leave the woodpile outside, on the ground, uncovered.

As the untouched wood ages, it can lose bark, gather fungus, and you get a little uncertain as to what kind of wood it is. You’ll say things like, “I should have painted the cut ends to avoid cracking.” And, “Well, if I cut off two inches from the cracked ends I’ll still have enough left for a good bowl.” If this also happened a few years earlier, you will subconsciously remember, on your next fallen tree wood gathering trip, to cut pieces a little longer just in case you don’t get to paint the ends right away. This leads to an even larger woodpile.

Some woods decay faster than others…poplar and apple come to mind along with sapwood of oak, I have to confess. Several years ago, I just had to get rid of a lot of decayed apple I had laboriously gathered a couple years earlier. Guilt ridden, I had trouble sleeping for a night or two, although some guilt can be suppressed with a sufficient absorbing of adult beverages, I’m told. Actually, I had to get rid of a whole bottom row of cut wood that was stored on the ground. Being a part-time turner, I go for extended periods of time between my woodturning sessions.

Recently I had gotten myself into another situation where I just had to admit I had far more wood than I was likely to turn, and noticed some of it was starting to get too split, decayed, or bug ridden. What to do...You could run an ad and sell the surplus to other woodturners. Or add to your firewood pile (just the bad pieces of course). Or donate it to your woodturning club’s annual fund raising auction (but this may mean hauling a lot of wood to one or more club meetings). Being in the world’s finest and largest woodturning club (allow a bit of pride, OK?), the Carolina Mountain Woodturners, where we have email and a website, our Internet expert broadcast the following email from me: “I have accumulated more wood blanks than I can turn. New Spalted Maple logs 12” diameter, sassafras ditto, butternut, odd pieces of walnut, chunks of various others. I’d like a CMW member, probably in the Hendersonville area, to come by and take some. A donation to CMW would be a nice gesture on the recipient’s part and save me hauling pieces to the September auction. Glad to get a few chunks of osage orange in trade. Call first (my phone #) and will provide detailed directions.” Within a day or two I received seven calls/emails, leading to visits and the removal of all the wood I wanted to have moved out. Each visit was very pleasant and allowed club members to see my shop and get their wood. We also greatly enjoyed each other’s company and had nice chats. One interesting couple lives six months in Florida and six here in Hendersonville, NC. They needed wood while HERE! Makes sense. Each grand person promised to give money to our club, and this approach saved my aging body from having to load, transport at high gas cost expense, and unload a LOT of wood for our annual club’s money raising auction.

There is still a bit of butternut to be retrieved by an out of town member, but the outside storage area is in great shape once again. I can either load in more wood or not. And, the decayed bark under one of the piles made great mulch for the flower garden. It is good to have a happy wife.

What remains is my inside wood on the floor of my basement shop studio. Now, yes, I allowed some of it to escape too, but at this point I can get to my smaller and second table top lathe which got blocked off for months by the inside wood blanks. The current condition allows me to throw out some rugs on which some wood sat and left its fungus marks. The floor can be seen once again. There were a lot of wood chips to vacuum up, dust, and even a few dead bugs. Such is woodturning. I have to go now, the phone is ringing...oh, it was my neighbor Dan, with the portable sawmill. He is slabbing a maple tree trunk and wondered if I wanted a piece near the root area as it is somewhat spalted and has real curly grain. I’d better go take a look.

Wooden Pendulums
by Fred Holder

I recently had a lady contact me seeking a wooden pendulum. I had never made one but told her I would be happy to give it a try. I searched the Internet and found a picture of an ancient Egyptian wooden pendulum (see Figure 1). I made a copy of that pendulum (See Figure 2) and sent a photo to her. She indicated that she wanted a pendulum that was more plump and about 2” long. Based on that information, I made a second one as close to what I felt she wanted (see Figure 3). She was very happy with it, but wanted the hook on top removed.

She advised that she wanted to use the pendulum for healing purposes. I have used pendulums over the years to seek answers to questions that I did not have an answer to. If you can clear your mind when using it, you can get very good yes or no answers. For this article, I decided to include a bit of information from the Internet on the subject of pendulums. The following is some of that information:

“A pendulum is an object suspended by a cord, used for obtaining information which the normal senses are unable to access on a conscious level. You could improvise with an everyday object, such as a pendant, a chain, a plumb bob or a ring on a thread. However, a purpose-made pendulum is best because it has a shape and geometry, that is, a symmetry. This allows the swing to be more even and more sensitive and therefore more effective. The pendulum, as an extension of the person using it, may be influenced both consciously and

subconsciously making the responses accurate as well as inaccurate. Wishful thinking or a preconceived outcome, however slight, can be magnified making the use of the pendulum in that instance ineffective. The user must take steps to prevent this. Insufficiently specific questioning can result in senseless responses.”

Here is a brief description of how I made a turned wooden pendulum.

I cut the wood into a square piece about 1-1/2 inches square and about 1” longer than I wanted the final pendulum to be; i.e., for the final pendulum (Figure 3), the wood was three inches long. I mounted this in a chuck with a live tail center in the tailstock. This point made by the tailstock would be the place where the hook would be inserted. I then turned the shape, working down toward a point on the chuck side. Before it became so small on the headstock end, I sanded through the grits down to 400. I then cut down carefully with a skew until the point was cut clean. I then had to do a little final sanding on the point and then applied a coat of Kerf’s Wood Creme, a very nice beeswax-based finish that works very well. I then installed the hook and a piece of string to check it out. It worked beautifully. It swung smoothly in the back and forth position (which I had defined to be YES) and sideways (which was defined to be NO). It also swung in a circle when it didn’t know the answer to the question.

I should mention, if you decide to make one of these, it helps to draw a “plus” on a piece of paper that you place below the pendulum and mark the direction for

Yes and No. You will know that it doesn’t know when it swings in a circle. Have fun with your pendulum!


Figure 1. Picture of an ancient Egyptian Wooden Pendulum.

Figure 2. Picture of my copy of the Egyptian Pendulum.

Figure 3. Picture of the final pendulum that the lady loved.


More Woodturning Magazine
Events Calendar Listing - August- September 2017

SWAT Woodturning Symposium
Location: Waco, TX
Dates: Friday, August 25, 2017 to Sunday, August 27, 2017

The South West Association of Turners symposium features nationally and internationally recognized turners, as well as outstanding regional turners selected from participating clubs and across the country. Lead demonstrators for the 2017 symposium include James Duxbury, Trent Bosch, Andy Cole, Molly Winton, Al Hockenbery, and Eric Lofstrom. As usual, there will also be an art gallery, a Saturday-night banquet, a drawing, and a large vendor area.

September 15, 2017 to September 17, 2017
Turning Southern Style
Location: Dalton, GA
Dates: Friday, September 15, 2017 to Sunday, September 17, 2017
The Georgia Association of Woodturners (GAW) presents its annual symposium "Turning Southern Style." The event is held at the Dalton Convention Center in Dalton, GA (previously known as the Northwest Georgia Trade and Convention Center.) The event includes top notch demonstrators, a large group of vendors and a great facility.This year's demonstrators include Beth Ireland, Glenn Lucas, Pascal Oudet, Nick Cook, Harvey Meyer, and Joe Ruminski.

September 15, 2017 to September 17, 2017
18th Annual Rocky Mountain Woodturning Symposium
Location: Loveland, CO
Dates: Friday, September 15, 2017 to Sunday, September 17, 2017
2017 marks the 18th year for this event. Participants can select from over 42 rotations given by some of the best woodturners in the world. The presentations will have something for everyone, from the beginner to the professional. There will be a large vendor exhibit and a hands on woodturning program area. An Instant Gallery will be open to the public and all attendees are encouraged to bring three peices for exhibit. Featured Demonstrators will include Stuart Batty, Trent Bosch, Cynthia Carden Gibson, Kurt Hertzog, Eric Lofstrom, Jonathn Medina, Carmen De La Paz, Curt Theobald, Tom Wirsing, and more.

September 30, 2017 to October 1, 2017
12th Annual Woodturning Symposium
Location: Billings, MT
Dates: Saturday, September 30, 2017 to Sunday, October 1, 2017



"Creativity Is Allowing Yourself To Make Mistakes.

Art Is Knowing Which Mistakes To Keep."

Happy Turning


Club Sponsors



PRESIDENT:  Stan Lambert  (406)348-3499
Tim Morgan (406)969-1982
SECRETARY:  Nick Enslander (406)259-6762
TREASURER:  Leona Gipe (406)248-1664
Librarian: (
Dr. Van) Richard Vande Veegaete (406)245-9945
Jane Kelly (406)259-3840
Technical Advisor: Newsletter & Website Editor: Paul Spencer (406) 861-6718
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A local chapter of the American Association of Woodturners.


Map to Meeting Location


Yellowstone Woodturners

Symposium 12


Dennis Liggett

September 30th and October 1th, 2017

Roaring 20'S Auto Clubhouse

7400 Grand Avenue

Billings, Montana

Cost of Symposium (Discounted if Paid by September 13th) $90

Cost of Symposium (If Paid after September 13th) per person $100

Cost for single day - Saturday or Sunday (per person) $75